Stephen Dinan is a gem. He speaks very coherently on global politics, our collective evolution and spirituality. My sense is he has powerful perspectives on what is emerging and where we need to go as a human family.
Stephen is founder and CEO of the Shift Network, the global movement to empower a shift in consciousness towards more health, sustainability, peace and justice.
I really enjoyed dialoguing with him on a diversity of questions: what level of centralization and decentralization do we need in managing the globe? How to stay well-resourced as global change agents? Do we live in hyper-militarized societies and if so why? Tune in for a really punchy 34 minutes…
Listen here to Jack Butler interviewing Stephen Dinan:
0:00 – welcome
1:00 – who is Stephen Dinan? How does his business, The Shift Network, work on the leading edge
02:05 – how we are undergoing a whole systems upgrade on a planetary scale
03:00 – the evolutionary trajectory and ‘fulcrums of development’ in human consciousness
04:05 – the shift to global consciousness and the rise of the global citizen
05:30 – the limitations of national strategic interest
06:00 – the case for more effective global governance
06:45 – the European Union banishing warring nation states to the past
07:10 – tendency towards higher levels of synergy, alliances and regionalization
07:50 – the justified fear of global centralization of power
08:00 – the emergence of truly elected global representatives
08:20 – a global congress?
09:30 – the cost of current militarization and the bluntness of the tool
10:00 – the economic argument for synergy vs border and protection
10:25 – the case of the USSR – not synergistic but dominating; projecting the totalitarian past into the future – world dictators!
11:30 – the minimum effective dose of centralization and the maximum amount of subsidiarity
11:55 – the evolutionary momentum point towards serious planetary collaboration – necessitating more forms of democratic global governance
12:25 – how to make the case for stronger global governance more popular
13:00 – The Good Country Party; global political parties and transnational structures (incl Facebook!)
14:45 – having collaboration between a more enlightened wings of both Democratic and Republican parties
16:00 – what is the moral imperative for fighting for a much more equal world?
16:55 – one human family, Christ consciousness and feeling through the immense suffering in the world
18:00 – microcredit and microfinancing – and upping developed world governmental contributions
18:50 – can US really afford to diminish military spending? (absent other countries doing the same)
19:50 – reducing nuclear weapons
20:30 – what investment results in true security? (military is really designed for delivering lethal force, not peacekeeping)
21:30 – what would it look like to give 2% of US military spending to a global peace body?
22:20 – the questionable strategy of destabilizing countries; the rise of ISIS
23:20 – having the priority developing culture, education and health in developing countries
24:00 – balancing the masculine and feminine in the collective psyche – the embedded over-worship of violence and hyper-masculinity
24:50 – where is the commitment to the equally strong feminine response (healing etc.) vs the hyper masculine military
25:20 – is there a limited opportunity for stronger global governance during America’s finite window of global pre-eminence?
26:20 – could there be potential for deep synergy between US and China? How China is well-designed for a leadership role in a global peaceful culture
28:30 – Stephen’s life hack – to be super-productive, be rigorous about cycles of rest and restoration; taking a Sabbath day; don’t buy into the culture of always doing
31:00 – is there a need for more power literacy in the conscious community? The limitations of the legacy philosophies of monasticism and transcendentalism, disconnection from larger socio-political currents. The advantage of having serious business chops.
33:20 – how to be wordly powerful and spiritually powerful; the last thing you want is enlightened pockets of people whilst the rest of the planet is on a crash course disaster