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Jack Butler interviews Stephen Dinan on creating a world which works for all

Stephen DinanStephen Dinan is a gem.  He speaks very coherently on global politics, our collective evolution and spirituality.  My sense is he has powerful perspectives on what is emerging and where we need to go as a human family.

Stephen is founder and CEO of the Shift Network, the global movement to empower a shift in consciousness towards more health, sustainability, peace and justice.

I really enjoyed dialoguing with him on a diversity of questions:  what level of centralization and decentralization do we need in managing the globe?  How to stay well-resourced as global change agents?  Do we live in hyper-militarized societies and if so why?  Tune in for a really punchy 34 minutes…


Listen here to Jack Butler interviewing Stephen Dinan:


Show links:

Stephen Dinan

The Shift Network

Global Citizen movement

The Good Country Party

The European Union 

US military spending

Global comparative military spending


Kiva – the microfinance organization


Show timecode:

0:00 – welcome

1:00 – who is Stephen Dinan?  How does his business, The Shift Network, work on the leading edge

02:05 – how we are undergoing a whole systems upgrade on a planetary scale

03:00 – the evolutionary trajectory and ‘fulcrums of development’ in human consciousness

04:05 – the shift to global consciousness and the rise of the global citizen

05:30 – the limitations of national strategic interest

06:00 – the case for more effective global governance

06:45 – the European Union banishing warring nation states to the past

07:10 – tendency towards higher levels of synergy, alliances and regionalization

07:50 – the justified fear of global centralization of power

08:00 – the emergence of truly elected global representatives

08:20 – a global congress?

09:30 – the cost of current militarization and the bluntness of the tool

10:00 – the economic argument for synergy vs border and protection

10:25 – the case of the USSR – not synergistic but dominating;   projecting the totalitarian past into the future – world dictators!

11:30 – the minimum effective dose of centralization and the maximum amount of subsidiarity

11:55 – the evolutionary momentum point towards serious planetary collaboration – necessitating more forms of democratic global governance

12:25 –  how to make the case for stronger global governance more popular

13:00 – The Good Country Party;  global political parties and transnational structures (incl Facebook!)

14:45 – having collaboration between a more enlightened wings of both Democratic and Republican parties

16:00 – what is the moral imperative for fighting for a much more equal world?

16:55 – one human family, Christ consciousness and feeling through the immense suffering in the world

18:00 – microcredit and microfinancing – and upping developed world governmental contributions

18:50 – can US really afford to diminish military spending?  (absent other countries doing the same)

19:50 – reducing nuclear weapons

20:30 – what investment results in true security?  (military is really designed for delivering lethal force, not peacekeeping)

21:30 – what would it look like to give 2% of US military spending to a global peace body?

22:20 – the questionable strategy of destabilizing countries;  the rise of ISIS

23:20 – having the priority developing culture, education and health in developing countries

24:00 – balancing the masculine and feminine in the collective psyche – the embedded over-worship of violence and hyper-masculinity

24:50 – where is the commitment to the equally strong feminine response (healing etc.) vs the hyper masculine military

25:20 – is there a limited opportunity for stronger global governance during America’s finite window of global pre-eminence?

26:20 – could there be potential for deep synergy between US and China?  How China is well-designed for a leadership role in a global peaceful culture

28:30 – Stephen’s life hack – to be super-productive, be rigorous about cycles of rest and restoration;  taking a Sabbath day;  don’t buy into the culture of always doing

31:00 – is there a need for more power literacy in the conscious community?  The limitations of the legacy philosophies of monasticism and transcendentalism, disconnection from larger socio-political currents.  The advantage of having serious business chops.

33:20 – how to be wordly powerful and spiritually powerful;  the last thing you want is enlightened pockets of people whilst the rest of the planet is on a crash course disaster










About Jack Butler

Jack Butler is a social entrepreneur, coach, workshop leader and speaker. His latest venture provides full spectrum human development through coaching, programmes and other development resources for leaders and entrepreneurs. He founded Future Foundations (www.future-foundations.co.uk), a leading youth personal development training organization. He is a professional member of the International Enneagram Association and a former fellow of the Royal Society of Arts. Jack was the IAB 2007 Young Entrepreneur of the Year runner-up and took a double first class degree in Social and Political Sciences from the University of Cambridge. Jack spends his time between London and Brighton in the UK and Boulder, CO and the Bay Area in the US. In his spare time, he enjoys physical challenges (3 Peaks Challenge 2010, Tresco Marathon 2006) and supporting The Simultaneous Policy Organisation (www.simpol.org.uk). He is a Partner in Passion and Purpose of the Grubb Guild, a voracious reader of personal, cultural and spiritual development, and likes to inquire, journal, travel and write.
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